religion and theology has popped up a lot, so i figured it should have it's own space. and to the atheists/agnostics, PLEASE be nice. i know some people are adamant about hating religion as much as some people are zealous and passionate about their faith/spiritual theology.
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A:Humans are the anomolly in all nature, we stand out as the defect in nature. Nature is perfect. I study rocks, critters, grasses, water, nature, and try to be like it. I try to remove the parts that seperate me from nature: selfishness, desire, irrational fear and the like. Nature appears Taoist though I am atheist, yet studies show that humans "live healthier longer lives if they believe in a higher power."
I've lived and studied in both Buddhist and Hare Krisna temples. Studied/practiced Christianity for two years. Passed several courses of various religious studies at university. For the last 13 years I have a daily practice of prayer and meditation. My prayer is to basically not get in the way things, to follow the directions presented to me every moment.
I often screw it up and impose my will. I hope you understand that I will continue to do my best to not get in the way of what should happen. Now the paradox is revealed, and you know its real spirituality when a paradox shows. Everything happens as it should, you are right where you should be, nothing happens by mistake, there are no coincidences; then why do we try so hard to not screw it all up?! Spirituality is full of paradox- die to be born, give to get, the more you know the less you know... I love this stuff!
(and I love images)
Answer by Micah Perry
Wed, 07/30/2008 - 9:29am — Micah Perry
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A:I'm agnostic. Just follow my heart in terms of respect, compassion and love for others. Veganism has fulfilled my spiritual needs. Since I became vegan, I enjoy being a better person and not harming others.
Answer by devious_vice
Thu, 07/24/2008 - 1:30pm — devious_vice
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A:Using the term religion is a slight peeve of mine. I'm not sure that religion really matters. I guess, I would consider myself a Christian but there is no way to really categorize my beliefs. I find that a relationship with my believed creator is all that ever matters, when the subject of religion is presented. I find so many Christians that I disagree with and, I guess I might say, are narrow-minded. I do believe that Jesus is someone to look up to. I think he was more about love than rules. Though I'm quite sure that Buddists have shown love better than many Christians have. So simply, it's a relationship not a religion and I just try to display love to everyone. That's all i really want for my life.
Answer by Fearbeforeme
Tue, 07/15/2008 - 6:50pm — Fearbeforeme
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A:Taoist..
taking my own path and letting everyone else do the same!
Answer by ltotehinzi
Tue, 07/15/2008 - 3:55pm — ltotehinzi
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A:i'm an athiest, but i don't "hate" religion. Hell, i WISH i had faith. It would make life so much easier if i thought there was a daddy/mommy/elephant figure up there who had a plan and was looking out for me. Alas, the logical part of my brain just can't wrap itself around that idea. So, i've resigned myself to my lack of faith. And on the off chance that i am wrong, it's rare but it happens, and there really is a benevolent deity(s?) somewhere up there, they'll forgive my lack of faith. Otherwise, i don't really give a fart what they think. Rules for gods are the same as my rules for people, i'd rather be shunned for being myself than accepted for acting like someone else. As for afterlife and the spirit world and everything, i'm absolutely sure our energy goes on after death. Not sure where it goes, but it does, i'm hoping for the Bahamas. Just my $0.02
~kitty
Answer by thekatsmeeeow
Tue, 07/08/2008 - 11:32am — thekatsmeeeow
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A:I am a very ecclectic pagan . My veganism fits in with my spirituality.
Answer by Lupustheurge
Tue, 07/08/2008 - 2:34am — Lupustheurge
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A:I am god but apparently I'm entirely unimpressive. Yeah, my creation looks pretty but it's not entirely functional. I should have gone into landscaping and interior decorating. Apparently I shouldn't design quantum mechanical structures. It's just gets too messy after awhile and I really thought people would have more fun the entropic aspects of reality.
Actually, I'm existentialist, a Discordian, an agnostic, and not too fond of most every religion. Morally I believe in having responsibility for yourself and that you have to make you're own destiny.
Answer by shoogie
Mon, 07/07/2008 - 9:30pm — shoogie
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A:I pratice Hellenismos (I was born into a non praticing Roman Catholic family), which is the reconstruction of the ancient Greek belief system. While most of the information out there is based off of Athens, I have been researching more into Sparta. It's less of a formal religon more just about how you live your daily life. Simple things that just kind of belnd into the background of most days. Key principals are reciprocity, and moderation.
I tend to call myself a non praticing pagan, as well I had a mental breakdown last year and stopped praticing. I'm just now getting my life back into order, and plan on reincorperating religion back into it.
Answer by arcanefairy
Mon, 07/07/2008 - 3:38pm — arcanefairy
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A:I'm trying to figure out if I think souls are our own making right now.... formulating a theory... we shall see how that works :) I don't believe in God- not in the biblical sense anyways. I was raised xtian so it's really weird to say that but it just doesn't make any sense to me. So lately, like in the last 45 minutes, I'm wondering... if we assume for the sake of this theory that humans have no souls to begin with, is it something that we create through thought? a soul seems just as untangable as a thought but a thought is there on some level, is it not? hmmm... like I said, just been thinking about this for the last little bit of time and i'll probably add to it but Any thoughts? Keep in mind this is the very tiniest little beginning of a theory so you don't need to blow it out of the water just yet ;) let me linger on it a bit and it will become clearer what the hell I'm talking about.
Answer by Anonymous
Mon, 07/07/2008 - 12:33pm — Anonymous
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A:I'm really in awe of these thoughtful answers and loved the Einstein quotes from VonL. I was also raised Jewish and just follow karma and the Golden Rule now. I have met many Jewish (or "raised Jewish) vegetarians (my theory is the guilt instills in us a reflexive accountability that makes us think hard about every little thing we do!). This post reminds me of another that Mrs. Florida put up a few months ago- if interested in that thread, check out:
http://vegifide.com/forlife/node/2456
Answer by sassafras
Mon, 07/07/2008 - 12:55am — sassafras
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A:to alacrity_danger: perhaps you missed some of the conversations on this topic in the past where some of the atheists were disrespectful to those that have a spiritual belief system. there was absolutely no disrespect in the question i posed. there has been a problem with atheists demeaning (and making a joke of) those that are *not* atheists and are instead religious, spiritual, etc..
Answer by @Ndru
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 7:22pm — @Ndru
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A:alacrity. i dont think it was meant to be rude.
in the past people have been quick to BE rude in regards to theological discussions on this site.
though it shouldnt have been directed at a specific group of people. or said at all.
i think they felt it warranted. ill say sorry for em! :)
Answer by x Ace Wilde x
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 5:26pm — x Ace Wilde x
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A:ok, i was raised non-demoninational christian at one of the largest churches in teh world. my parents got "born again" there and expected my brother and i to do the same. Being the good people pleaser little i always was, i did, at 16 accept jesus as my savior. i was baptised.
a few years pass and i am a pathetic waste of a life drunk basically homeless jobless friendless penniless and prostituting myself for booze. wound up a few times on the south side of chicago at 26th and california, cook county jail.....THAT last time while detoxing in there, i had a moment of grace. I could live or die, and something made me see that i wanted to live.
it was not jesus, i am convinced of that. i consider myself to be agnostic because i just don't know. and i'm ok with that. I've seen way too much grandiosity and judgement through the years of that Christian church and it's people....
i don't blame the church for anything that happened to me, i take total responsibility. BUT i have learned the REAL core fundamental truth about a higher power to me is just a UNIVERSAL "put good stuff out there and get good stuff back"....what goes around comes around kind of thing.
i could write forever about this and my experiences and all that has occured in my life, but who cares right?
blah blah blah, nice to have so many folks on here who are openminded. i hope.....
thanks!
katy
Answer by KitKatKootie
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 4:47pm — KitKatKootie
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A:The issue is that it was not addressed to everyone. That is what makes it rude.
Answer by alacrity_danger
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 3:00pm — alacrity_danger
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A:I was raised Roman Catholic. There are many things I don't agree with in all faiths. I accept the good of anyone's beliefs and acts at face value.
Alacrity, I don't think the "atheists/agnostics, PLEASE be nice" comment was meant to be rude. I read it to mean "Please don't start a religious war" to EVERYONE. Maybe I'm wrong on that, maybe not.
Answer by Bambina
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 2:57pm — Bambina
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A:Also, I wanted to add that I do find it odd and a bit rude that you felt the need to remind atheists and agnostics to be nice as if we are automatically rude unless told to act otherwise. I've never knocked on anyone's door and told them they were wrong and to change their beliefs regardless of what I think of them and I have people telling me I am going to hell all the time. It just seems a bit judgemental to assume the atheists and agnostics would be rude when we have to deal with rude people all the time. Why single us out?
Answer by alacrity_danger
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 2:23pm — alacrity_danger
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A:I am what is known as a Theistic Agnostic. I believe in energies greater than what we have discovered but I leave the door open for this to be it. If it ends up being either way I'm cool with it.
I also am a firm believer in Jungian Synchronicity which borders on real spirituality for me. See here: http://www.psychovision.ch/synw/synchronicity_jung.htm
Answer by Animalia_Libero
Fri, 06/20/2008 - 11:26am — Animalia_Libero
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A:unhindered, I should have said that I'm 100% convinced in the existence of a spirit world. I've had a few experiences over the years including some ouija board sessions that have made me a believer but I don't mess with that kinda thing anymore.
I've also had 2 religious themed out-of-body experiences, one Christian and the other Hare Krisha. But I'm not Christian or Hare Krishna. Strange, I know.
Answer by mikojak
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 10:38pm — mikojak
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A:i asked the question so i figure i should answer it as well for anyone that cares to know.
i consider myself a (liberal) apophatic panentheistic Christian Buddhist that strives for quietism.
i can't say i relate well to most other people that label themselves "christians" as their theology is rooted in western traditions as where mine is almost entirely eastern... so i don't fit the stereotype of a "christian".
Answer by @Ndru
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 4:01pm — @Ndru
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A:As with tmar, I love God and His son Yeshua. Don't go to church, don't follow any dogma. Believe in personal relationship with God and personal responsibiliy to Him
Answer by godshoneybunny
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:20pm — godshoneybunny
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A:i was raised luthern and have no idea what that means. ;P we went to church on sunday (weekly for a few years then randomly as we all grew up) and attended mass on christmas eve. we went to sunday school as kids and then went through confirmation when we got older. we were raised to be good and kind to others, not to lie/cheat/steal, not to cuss, and to say a little prayer before bed if we felt like it. i used to pray thinking that there *was* this wonderful being in the heavens who would eventually hear me, but...
i'm agnostic bordering on athiest. i live by the Golden Rule (which, by definition, incorporates veganism!). i respect anyone's beliefs, though, as long as they don't try to preach to me. and, of course, as long as they're a good person.
Answer by smilesforthesun
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 11:48am — smilesforthesun
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A:unhindered, who was this question directed to:
"mikojak, is there a story behind you being 100% sure that there is a spirit world? (just curious, not challenging!)"
Answer by @Ndru
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 10:50am — @Ndru
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A:For me,as a child,coming from an athiest family,I always knew,felt,this energy,which is inside every one of us,doesn't die,with the body,so from very young,I just knew,that you always existed,always have,always will.I then realised,how most kids,don't need adults to explain to them about love.We all know,from birth, love.
So I come from a place of knowing,remembering,and have done since I was a toddler.
I feel,always have,we are all energy,love,vibrating at different rates,experiancing ourselves subjectively.
We are all droplets in the ocean.There is no such thing as death.Life is a dream & we are the illusion of ourselves.(Bill Hicks quotes too!)
Love is all there is,ever will be.
Also,if any want to question this,feel free.I will not answer as this is me.I ask nothing of no-one!
I come from where I come from.You come from where you come from.End of conversation!!!
Much love!
xxx
Answer by FreeSpirit
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 8:14am — FreeSpirit
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A:I was saved and "born again" that being said I have since found my own truths about my relationship with god and I dont believe god cares about posture in prayer nor do i believe that one must attend church every sunday . I think a pesonal relationship with a power greater than ones self whatever it may be is benificial to all....
Answer by pleaseone tko
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 8:04am — pleaseone tko
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A:maybe one day i'll find one that fits...but for now i follow no religion im just trying to be the best person i can be and enjoy the time i have
Answer by amanda
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 6:48am — amanda
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A:I like to keep it simple. I want to treat people with kindness and live by having faith in the unseen. I love God, that's it and that's all.
Answer by tmar
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 3:18am — tmar
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A:Raised Roman Catholic. Still consider myself Roman Catholic but generally critical of a lot of faiths - including my own. Hope that makes some sense.
Answer by Vegmike
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 3:09am — Vegmike
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A:mikojak, is there a story behind you being 100% sure that there is a spirit world? (just curious, not challenging!)
Answer by unhindered
Thu, 06/19/2008 - 1:20am — unhindered
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A:I hear Kelbots on this one and I've been saying it for years... Veganism is the closest thing I have to religion. I'm an athiest/agnositic. I have no reason to believe in a "God" but I am 99% sure that there is an afterlife and 100% sure that there is a spirit world.
Answer by mikojak
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:57pm — mikojak
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A:I am obviously a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I was raised in whatever church my mom liked at the time, mostly Methodist. I have looked into many faiths over the years and studied and prayed for the right religion to be brought to me. And then here come the missionaries. I studied their beliefs and asked many questions. I studied, pondered, and prayed and about it and this Church was for me. I am not the typical Mormon but due to my white skin am often judged and treated as Miss middle class perfect wife perfect life. That is so not the case. I should have been a California girl with a good education in a sheltered middle class world. But instead I was moved into the barrio. I was surrounded by gangs, drugs, and pornography. I was the dragalong child. Simply poor white trash. Traditions included waking up in strange places, strange people waking up in your places, smoking pot in small groups, hustling for money, and cooking with lard. I am Portuguese and French.
Answer by MollyMormon
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:45pm — MollyMormon
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A:Atheist!
Answer by Anonymous
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:15pm — Anonymous
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A:i'm an avouch atheist who reads taoist philosophy
Answer by chrysee
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:12pm — chrysee
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A:No real religion so far...I'm agnostic. Maybe someday I'll actually do more research and reading.
For now, I just try to be a good person. That's all. I try to better myself. I try to make people happy and maybe make their lives easier somehow.
Answer by veg_grrrl
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:07pm — veg_grrrl
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A:I was raised fundamentalist christian so needless to say I'm soured on the whole organized religion thing but I find that I think about it way more than I ever did. I go with a few staples like karma and good energies and the like... Do unto others makes a lot of sense:) Some days I believe there is a God and some I don't... It's mostly that I don't these days but I know myself enough to realize it just has to be put to me the right way for me to give it another chance. I suppose veganism is my religion these days. Maria was saying that some of us vegans seem that way in one of her replies in one of the dairy debates and I meant to answer back to her that that was exactly what it was to me. I don't see any other way to respect god? and all the creatures I share the planet with then not to use them when I have viable alternatives. Also living green seems to be a good way to show that you care about everyone else that is here with you and those that will come after. Thats all for now...
Answer by Anonymous
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 10:49pm — Anonymous
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A:im not really a part of any religion
i follow buddha more than others
Answer by brentley
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:40pm — brentley
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A:Vonlothringin below is my brother so we were raised the same. I've been many religions but my main upbringing was in judaism.
While I do not claim a religion at the moment God and spirituality are still a big part of my life. Though I'm not even sure God exists...or if God does exist it's not in the way most people expect. I take different parts of my religious experiences to form who I am. And what I do know is that no matter what religion you are, you should treat all living things with love and respect. This is the ideal root of most religions. If God exists I'd like to think that he/she/it isn't going to get pissed off that I'm not a certain religion and would care more that I am a kind person and activly love others.
Once in a Pentacostal Sunday school I was told that I would go to hell even if I was a good person, unless I was Christian. That hardly seemed right to me. If God was as loving as I was being told. Then why would he send a good person to such a bad place. I started struggling with God and organized religion then. I decided that it was more important to be a good person than be a certain religion and that if God was going to damn me for that, then he'd be damning most of the people I love too, so at least we'd be together in hell. And if I'm with the people I love then hell would become a form of heaven.
I am interested in all types of religion and do believe that being part of an organized religion can help many people, but not everyone. I believe that you can believe in God without giving God a name. And that you can love God without even knowing for sure that one exists. And I believe people should spend more time loving others than fighting over religious ideas and who is right and who is wrong and who is better.
I believe that God is found in all forms of love. So I guess that if I had a religion, my religion would be loveism.
Answer by The notorious P.I.P
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:58pm — The notorious P.I.P
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A:Raised Jewish, though I am not particularly religious, I owe a lot of who I am to the Jewish way of life. I have a sort of all-encompassing spiritual philosophy that includes aspects of many major and minor religions, as well as philosophies, socio-political concepts, ways of life, etc. You know... I'm just going to quote Einstein... he puts it into words a lot better:
"True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all one's goodness and righteousness." | "What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism." | "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity." | "The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life." | "A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty." | "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
Answer by VonLothringen
Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:09pm — VonLothringen
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Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:01pm — @Ndru
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